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Is there any chance we will ever see PDU10 as a Syvecs product? Or can Life PDU-10 be used with S6GP seamlessly some day?

I really like the basic idea to include sensor inputs included in power distribution module and then be sent to can bus and included in ecu internal logging memory. Two boxes, one handles engine, other handles power, some knobs and buttons, you're done. Maybe some display to show driver the essentials.

What are you trying to achieve?

Put sensors into the ECU, and send the info to a PDU8, or Motec PDMs can also be used.

Seems that all ecu sensor inputs are already used. Trying to get some more without additional units/boxes and at the same time no fuses nor relays.

Is Motec PDM capable of receiving S6GP can data output? I have used them in Motec-only systems but not with other brand ecus.

I like the idea that eg. fuel pump and fan activation doesn't need other wires can bus has. Yes there are hardwired input pins on PDM but less wires is better. I know that can data output is configurable in S6 but don't want to because this customers system includes AIM Strada display and can data input set is not configurable.

You can easily have a PDM and AIM strada dash co exist. There are plenty of spare frames the AIM doesn't use or data you're not going to need in the default stream, so you can use the frames with different contents.

I would say that it's much better if you can given an exact end result and then we can help you with the best way to achieve it. This works much better than going down some convoluted route to try and do something that in actual fact has a much simpler solution.

Do you need more inputs? If so what sort of inputs?
DO you need to control the +12v side of your systems? What do you need to power?
Do you need more outputs?
What do you already have on the CanBus besides the Syvecs and Aim?

Quite a simple system is the target. Engine control system +12V feed, ignition +12V feed,alternator, starter solenoid, fan low, fan high, front low beam, front high beam, front and back turn signals, rear lights, brake lights, reverse light, fuel pump 1 and definitely a future option for fuel pump 2.

Those sensors that are in place are good for now but owner may want to install gear box temp, rear, front and center diff temps, brake pressure sensors and possibly all four suspension linear pots. Fuel tank meter sensor, four wheel speeds also. Not sure what will be installed in reality but options for majority of these would be good.

Idea is to keep unit count and cost low without sacrificing quality, functionality and future options. If Life PDU10 wouldn't be too expensive then it would fill expectations nicely. If not then Motec PDM15 is the route and maybe display is uppgraded to AIM Pista display/logger.

Pavlo, thanks for answering but not much real help here

I couldn't give you a detailed answer as all the info wasn't presented.

There is the I/O 10 but while it has high side outputs, these are for ECU output switching, don't have much logic and don't have smart current control.

Using some tricks to minimise the outputs you still have too many systems for a 10 channel PDM. So probably best to go with a PDM15 which is great VFM and will easily do what you want (with a slightly different channel list to the example outlined below). An AIM MXL Pro05 will be required to log all you want if you stick with AIM, however I can also recommend a Race Technology DL1 Club which can be a good central place to feed all your data. I have put the wheel speeds directly into the ECU to give you options for full traction control, at this point it would be good to know what the engine requirements are so you can adequately plan.

You can have an AIM dash/logger, Race Technology logger, Syvecs S6 and Motec PDM15 all coexist on one Canbus. The ECU can control 1 or two cans via can status frames, or use one output with a PWM control on the low side. It can also control mutliple fuel pumps, and I have also used another function to give 3d fuel pump control using a beefy H bridge motor controller.

Outputs:
1. Engine control system +12V ECU, dash, logger (10amp max)
2. ignition, injectors and alternator feed (10amp max)
3. starter solenoid (20amp max)
4. fan low, fan high (1x 20amp, PWM controlled using PWM motor speed controller on low side from ECU)
5. front low beam, rear lights (keep on with high beam activation) (10amp)
6. front high beam (10 amp)
7. Left turn signal (3 amp)
8. Right turn signals (3 amp)
9. brake lights (5 amp)
reverse light (from switch, powered by 12v for ecu)
10. fuel pump 1 (20amp)
11. fuel pump 2 (20amp)

Dash/Logger inputs
1. gear box temp
2. rear diff temp
3. front diff temp
4. center diff temps
5. Front brake pressure
6. Rear brake pressure
7. Fuel tank level
8. FL Damper
9. FR Damper
10. RL Damper
11. RR Damper

Additional ECU inputs
1. FL four wheel speed
2. FR four wheel speed
3. RL four wheel speed
4. RR four wheel speed

Have You done a Syvecs S6GP/Motec PDM15 combination using can bus to transfer informaton from ecu to PDM in the real world? Any example files for can setup on both ends?

Yes I have done it in the real world, it's easy enough.

If you have a specific application I/Syvecs can supply base config files to get your going.

It would be great if Motec PDM config file is provided. It should be one that has can input configured to receive for example coolant temp engine rpm, the rest is easy. S6 can output should be configured like AIM provides a setup info pdf for Life F88 so that AIM Strada can receive can info properly.

Publishing it on the forum would benefit this community but I understand if forum rules or Your preferences are against it, PM or email in that case .