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Re: IGN outputs for led

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:17 pm
by TimH
stevieturbo wrote: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:10 pm
TimH wrote: Sat Apr 18, 2020 11:48 am
Not sure about protection - I would hope there is, as that would be good design practice.
I busted a fuel output on an S6...so no protection there.
The age of the S6 design may mean the injector driver devices are not self-protecting and a short to 12V might kill them. More modern omnifet injector drivers have inherent current limiting and thermal protection - but guess you can still kill them somehow!

Re: IGN outputs for led

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:25 pm
by Trickster
That would make sense, TTL signal can be anything below 1v is off and anything above 3v is on, so there is a tolerance.

I'm about to do some work on my car anyway and I have the ignition wires accessible for testing, I'll throw some leds on and see how they fair up, maybe without resistors they will be fine if the voltage is low enough

Graeme

Re: IGN outputs for led

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:39 pm
by TimH
I would use a resistor. Let's say the Vf of your diode is 3V and the ignition drive is 3.5V - without a resistor the driver may fail as too much current is drawn. A 22ohm resistor would limit the current to 20mA and keep it all safe.

Re: IGN outputs for led

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:57 pm
by Trickster
I don't have any resistors that low, I'll play around but use what I have and see what we get to start with 👍

Graeme

Re: IGN outputs for led

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:12 pm
by Trickster
Pretty pleased actually

I hooked up a white led with a 470ohm resistor and it worked fine and was much brighter than I expected considering the resistor size.

My ecu is in the boot so I used a long length of wire to simulate any voltage drop too

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Re: IGN outputs for led

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:21 pm
by TimH
Excellent!

Re: IGN outputs for led

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 3:00 pm
by Trickster
I would of thought 3 or 4 of these would be OK on one output with 470 resistors?

Graeme

Re: IGN outputs for led

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 3:06 pm
by TimH
If the TTL output is 3.5V and the Vf of the diode 3V, say, then you are only drawing 1mA - which is nice and low so must be a super-duper nice-n-bright LED :idea: 8-)

So, yes, 4 would be AOK

Re: IGN outputs for led

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 3:18 pm
by Trickster
Thanks Tim 8-)

They were about 4 pound for 50 off ebay haha, it said ultra bright, I guess it didn't lie!

Graeme

Re: IGN outputs for led

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 3:56 pm
by stevieturbo
Other option would be buy a full shift light lol